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on the tax policy. all of a sudden under the rules of the senate you need a supermajority to pass tax increases. if you're a pro choice woman especially in light of the fact that with a current make-up of the supreme court, you be concerned you're going to lose your right to access and safe abortion. so, again, the fact of the matter is, you know -- >> connect those dots for me, though. connect those dots. is the argument this? that if you muck with what the current filibuster rules are, you essentially begin to slide down a slippery slope, which will mean in the future republicans will muck with it in all kinds of radical ways? >> exactly. you're playing the long ball. if you're the democratic leadership looking out for the institution as a whole, you've got to be concerned about what may occur in the future. because after all, you know, you can't guarantee -- >> in the minority some day. >> yeah. you can't guarantee. >> here's the problem with the argument. right now, we seeing violations of all kinds of norms. the amount of filibusters has spiked. you have a crazy situation which r
in the private marketplace are, one, requesting to be comprehensive. two, you are going to have tax incentives, tax rebates for millions, as many as 6 or 7 million americans to get into this program. so they can get health coverage. >> who pays for that, julianne? who picks up the tab on rebates? >> that was part of the aca, that was part of the law. that was part of -- it comes through a tax rebate. >> let's talk about where the money comes from. originally when president obama pushed this, and turned a bill into a law, the cbo said it was going to be about $900 billion. now, they have upped that. the cbo has under that number to $1.8 trillion. we are not even talking about these additional insion incentives and rebates which is only going to add though that number. >> one how is it paid for tax increases like the medical equipment tax and increase on capital gains. there is no question there are some taxes that are paying for this secondly, the cbo also made it clear that the healthcare law was going to be a net reducer in terms of our federal deficit. >> julian, i have toil, president obama
so our financial system works better for consumers and investors, and locking in lower taxes for 98% of all americans. and lowering baferiers so entrepreneurs and -- barriers so entrepreneurs and businesses can innovate, grow, and hire. because of these measures we're moving in the right direction. the positive signs are real. since 2009 our economy has been expanding. over the past 43 months, private employers have added 7.6 million jobs. in fact, businesses have added more than two million jobs over the last year alone. and the end of this year, and the beginning of next year, show signs of further progress. the auto industry is growing again, manufacturing has increased. the global market has improved. american companies liked ford and apple are starting to move operations back to the united states. we sell more products made in america to the rest of the world than ever before. the cost of health care is growing at the slowest rate in years. and our deficits are half of what they were when the president took office. so we have seen the united states economy make a turn around. o
the pike? how many taxes are in there? nice that it is covering people, but when will it -- what is it going to cost us? i think that americans really want to know and it is not out there in black-and-white. you should be able to look and see. there are a lot of important things that have been done wrong. the president has lied to us. thank you. host: a little bit more about the book "double down." it is just coming out. even after obama named hillary clinton as secretary of state, finding their wounds, he could barely endure spending time with the clinton. he rarely contacted his democratic predecessor in the years after taking office. after midterm losses for his party, the incumbent and his inner circle realized that they still needed the popular mr. clinton. they golfed together in 2011 in an effort to get closer together. they did not even finish 18 holes. r. obama succinctly expressed his view of mr. clinton saying that he liked him in doses. to thema, who is known test campaign donor nations said that he could not name his top five vendors. he says he has no idea. after me
too much. about two-thirds said raising taxes to cut the deficit was a nonstarter. and compared to obamacare, which more voters actually said they wanted to repeal, these levels of support are striking. so if our friends on the other side want to keep trying to claim an electoral mandate for maintaining obamacare contradicted by the facts as that phaoeurbgs while using their own logic we had to call the mandate for reducing the size of government a super mandate. that's why their new plan to undo the cuts the president campaigned on and increase the debt is so outrageous. we hear that the senior senator from new york will soon announce a proposal to give the permanent -- give the president permanent power to borrow more. in other words, he wants to extend the debt ceiling permanently by going around congress. let me repeat that. the so-called schumer-obama plan is a plan to permanently hand the president a credit card without spending limits and without lifting a finger to address the national debt. truly outrageous, especially when you consider that our debt is now $17 trillion
. lou: why would congressman paul ryan get involved in integration an trying to rewrite the tax code in such a short timeframe and as i was talking with jon barrasso yesterday, the leadership priorities are to preserve sequester and ensure that no taxes are raised here. why expand again -- it's one of those baffling things to me that the republican party always seems to be inclined to turn potential political victories in moments of achievement into failure and i just don't understand it. >> he is focused on this budget negotiation and i don't think there'll be there will be a grand bargain. we are focused on not only keeping victories like this in place but adding to them as well and tax reform would be a victory that would help grow the economy and help alleviate the deficits. lou: but we are sitting here looking at this. >> cannot speak for him, but we are focused on trying to get a budget done and when you don't have a budget is when you have this continuous resolution. lou: goes back to what i was saying. >> earlier i said that it's okay to say no when no is what is %from people
care and pay out of my own pocket and hope the government pays me back. subsidizes it through my taxes. i'm going to let you pay for it because i'm guaranteed to get it this way. >> but what if they do take away the requirement -- >> you're either eligible or not eligible. >> they took away the requirement to have a child. that's how you used to be eligible for medicaid. now anyone can get it. that's why in states that you're eligible that took that medicaid money, millions are going to be enrolling and we're on the hook. jay carney took the podium. he also said the reason for all of this, the reason for six enrollees, is solely because of the website. here's carney. >> let me just tell you now, november 1st. we don't expect those numbers to be very high. we never did. they're going to be even lower because of the challenges we had with the website. >> that's interesting. then he says they never did know that because earlier in the week, the answer was the president had no idea that the website was not going to work. so they constantly try to have it both ways and that's annoying. i am
. young people don't care so much about taxes and regulation. but they all have a cell phone and they're on the internet and they care about their privacy. so do i. i would correct these policies if i were ever the one to make the decisions. i think that would attract new people to the party, not less. >> what do you think of senator cruz? he seems to be catching on. more republicans see him as the leader than you in the party. particularly catching on in iowa, do you think he's your chief rival? if you choose to run. >> i think we're a long way away from that. i haven't even convinced my wife yet whether or not i should do this. no, ted and i are friends. he's a limited government conservative. we don't always agree on everything, but we agree on a lot of things. >> you heard dan pfeiffer there say, he's confident that the website problems will be fixed by the end of november and one of the success stories it appears so far is that -- in your own state, the kentucky website seems to be doing pretty well, 26,000 have signed up for the exchange. what do you make of the fact that so man
's the obstruction campaigns. they include gop darling like rush limbaugh and dick marsh urging people to avoid tax refunds as a ways to avoid or sign petitions rejecting their exchanges. then there's the gop icing on the cake. a two-week government shutdown and the threat to blow up the economy. if the health care isn't dismantled. strong stuff. ron reagan, i want to start with you. this has been a concerted effort. it's like when you read about lincoln coming to washington through baltimore and into town because the secession movement has begun. they didn't give this guy a honeymoon. they didn't give him nothing. they started going after him from the beginning. >> no. and they haven't learned their lesson. they just got their hat handed to them with their government shutdown and the debt ceiling, and you'd think they'd be chasing it a bit, but they're going to keep this up. it's an ideological war they're fighting where these tea party members, they think the government is bad. not only do they think that obama's government is bad, any government is bad. so they want government to fail. which is
that their >> mexico is taxing junk food as part of the campaign to fight obesity. >> an 8% tax will be placed on high calorie foods, snacks with more than 275-calories per 100 grams. the congress passed a law that puts a one peso tax on soft drinks, that's 8 cents. mexico has one of the world's highest obesity rates, slightly higher than the u.s., 70% have the population. >> they took a lot of clues from michael bloomberg in new york city, trying to pass these laws. speaking of food, there's a salmon boom in washington state. >> more than a mill chinook salmon have been counted this fall. we have more. >> on one of the northwest great natural stages, an underwater drama is playing out. chinook salmon are setting records. >> over 73,000 passed through the dam in one day. you couldn't blink or talk. with these visual counts, there's no going back. >> people paid to count fish have never counted more in the fall run. 900,000 so far. more than a million for the species this year. >> we were expecting a good run, we exceeded the daily max mum. it was mayhem, really, it was mayhem. >> salmon populations ha
pass a budget that cuts things we don't need and closes wasteful tax loopholes that don't help create jobs so that we can free up resources for the things that do create jobs and growth. building new roads, building new bridges and schools and airports. that creates jobs. >> meantime, republicans are doubling down today on the problems that be have plagued the obama care website with senator dan coats of indiana delivering the weekly gop response. >> too many americans still cannot even access the online exchanges and for the few that have, their experiencing sticker shock. the president told us that obama care is more than a website. i agree. it it is more than just a website and the problems run far deeper than a few technological glitches. >> well, the white house released a progress report late friday on the website fix saying it is improving with users now waiting an average of less than a second for pages to load compared to eight seconds in the first few weeks. teams are working to improve the application process and increase system speed and efficiency. another round of fixes
, increase taxes. ken cuccinelli: create jobs, cut taxes. to stop obamacare and higher taxes, there's only one choice. >> reporter: unlike his rival, mcauliffe supports expanding medicaid under the affordable care act. he says accepting the federal aid would help more virginia residents obtain coverage and benefit the state's economy. >> when we know that 400,000 virginians could gain health care access by accepting the medicaid expansion, we must act. ( applause ) that is virginia money coming back to virginia, and it will create 30,000 new jobs. >> reporter: cuccinelli refuted that claim at last week's final candidate debate. >> he pretends to get $500 million out of the medicaid expansion, which he's called a jobs program. folks, it's welfare, it's not a jobs program. >> reporter: the mcauliffe campaign, meanwhile, has charged republican cuccinelli is outside the mainstream of virginia voters, especially when it comes to women's health issues such as abortion rights and access to contraception. >> let me be crystal clear, i trust women to make their own decisions about their own persona
the government pays me back, subsidizes it through my taxes. so what am i going to do? i'm going to let you pay for it 'cause i'm guaranteed to get it. >> you have to be eligible. you can't lie. if you're eligible or not eligible. - >> juan, they took away the requirement to have a child. you used to be eligible for medicaid.ow y now anyone can get it. itib costs nothing! the states that you're eligible to took that medicaid money, millions will be enrolling and we're on the hooke dana, jay carney also said the a reason for all of this, the reason for six enrollees is solely because of the web site. here is carney. >> let me just tell you now, ont november 1, we don't expectmber those numbers to be very high'te and we never did.ry but they're going to be even lower because of the challenges we've had with the web site. >> that's interesting. he says they never did know thah becausee earlier in the week, te answer was that the president had no idea that the web site was not going to work. they constantly try have it both ways and that's annoying. i am surprised that the experts seemed so surpri
the government in terms of tax credits or you can get no help at all. >> elizabeth cohen, good useful information that she always provides us, thank you. >>> toomg is election day and two races for governor are getting a lot of national attention. generating some big-name support. take a closer look at ha these contests could mean for the 2016 presidential race. gloria borjer is standing by to join me live. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] more room in economy plus. more comfort, more of what you need. ♪ that's... built around you friendly. ♪ to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. nthat's why they deserve... aer anbrake dance. get 50% off new brake pads and shoes.
, the republican position, this no revenues thing, even if it's revenues to stop massive tax abuse, massive tax evasion, that kind of position in the end that leads us to cutting food stamps. today it starts. big cuts for the poorest people in the country, day after halloween. you are getting millions of people cut today on their ability to eat and feed their kids. why? because they are standing up in congress, still. don't make the banks pay taxes. don't make google and amazon and apple pay taxes. let them keep their money. >> i understand. let's talk -- let's talk about the big issue. >> it's collapsing. >> let's talk about the big issue and i think we agree on this. by the way, i agree, we shouldn't slash and burn the 12, 13, 14% and leave the big entitlement systems out of touch. you have harry reid asked in an interview about medicare and social security. he said why do you keep bringing it up? you are obsessed with it. we are not going to do anything on those. we are not going to touch those. that's where the long term -- if we want to save america from debt, that's the long term fix. >>
federal tax dollars will fund president obama's insurance plan, but yet he's going to fine me and penalize me for something i can't afford to buy. it makes me very angry. >> tatter says there is one positive aspect to obama care. it has allowed her 24-year-old son to remain on her policy. that is until january 1st when tatter says no one in her family will have health insurance. bret. >> john, thank you. >>> from president obama, this has been a halloween week in which his praumshs about his health care reform plan have come back to haunt him. tonight, a new example. here's jim ingle. >> president obama's made several promises about the new health care plan, but two of them collide with each other, including one pledging many people will pay very little. >> one study shows that nearly 6 in te10 uninsured americans may find coverage for $100 a month or less. >> he also made this promise. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. >> he said he didn't want to interfere with people's relationships with their doctors, but he can't keep both those promises at the
, pay taxes, do whatever is legal if you can afford it. the last thing we need are more laws. enough trying to control everyone. that comes from a nonsmoker. >> there's so much medical proof that we know for sure, if we can help prolong -- >> they start younger. >> i think that voting, you can't compare voting and buying a pack of smokes. i'm so sorry. >> i don't know. >> you're very passive today. i want to be your new nancy. >> a young woman blogging about -- i'm trying to get -- >> you are. go for it. go for it. >> this is my favorite topic. we'll get on this one. a young woman blogging about her adventurous serial dating, with one goal in mind. to fulfill my restaurant hit list. and there's a, quote, dating site, for food lovers where women are taken out to their favorite restaurants. i say, if the guys are dumb enough, more power to the women. these are people who are laying out what their goals are. this woman is publicly saying, this is why i'm doing it. if this guy wants to take her out -- >> i don't agree, my friend. >> lara, go. >> there's another name for that. i don't thi
should pass a budget that cuts things we don't need and closes tax loopholes that don't help create jobs so we can free up resources for the things that do create jobs and growth. building new roads. building new bridges and schools and airports. that creates jobs. >> too many americans still cannot even access the online exchanges and for the few that have, they are experiencing sticker shock. the president told us that obama care is more than a website. i agree. it is more than just a website, and the problems run far deeper than a few technological glitches. >> the white house released a progress report on the website fix saying it is improving with users waiting less than a second for wages to load, compared to eight. they are work to go improve application process. wanda summers and ed o'keefe. good morning to you both. thanks for joining me. >> good to see you, alex. >> as the the house and senate negotiators met on tuesday, they are just waiting to reach a deal and we reach the debt ceiling february 7th. will it turn into another 11th hour fight? or might we get something done unt
for the revolve l of bill clinton and the bush tax cut john mccain voted against them. when it came to obama care, not one single democrat voted against it including one that gave up their seats to vote for it. they enforce party discipline. we're too busy see arguing and have half -- not half of but a small portion of the tea party on talk radio all the time saying stop focussing, please can we get a majority. they are going after republicans they consider slightly unpair. i'm thinking we go after al franken and larry andrew and flip democrat seats. >> your name also came up in the interview and we discussed dick cheney. let's watch this. >> there are some elements like fox, like your show that i think are seriously objective and reflective what i think a lot of americans believe. i do find the mainstream media is often times what i would consider off base or as bias. >> so fox is the voice of reason. >> is he the ill legitimate father of ann coulter? >> got to put the question to you, he's not, right? >> i'd say our politics are slightly different but yeah, i like dick cheney. >> do you? >> yea
out. >> it is. >> but it was $3.30. this is a tax cut for everyone, but it's not good for exxon, as we saw yesterday. >> do you think it's coming back, or no? >> oil? i hope not. >> even walmart said it's a tailwind, but offsed by the headwinds of higher -- >> i'm still forecasting $20 a barrel. i'm hoping for that for our friends in the midwest. let's look at the ten-year note. friends. saudi arabia doesn't even like us any more. 2.56% now on the ten- year. >> you can do it for your friends on the l.i.e. if we get down to 20, we'll -- >> that the. which is you when you rent a car to go out and get a pumpkin. >> this is getting better because germany is messing up with their export driven economy and there's no inflation. in fact, they're going to have to try and engender some inflation. one of the lead stories today is how low inflation in thor row zone is right now, which is, you know, raising the specter of -- and fear of deflation, which isn't good for anybody. i guess we'll go to europe first before we talk about all this other interesting stuff here. >> we have to talk about your
this something that is new money and new tax dollars or is this something you think some conservatives will be comfortable supporting if it means new federal money? >> i think so. it's not a significant amount of money, but it is new dollars. we use a model that works. the health care centers could expand to add behavioral health. a number of them in my state and other states are doing that anyway. we have a model that works and frankly the tragedies of the last couple of years. drawing attention to this issue. we both believe we have a model that works and a moment that works. this is something that the congress could do to respond to these tragedies. after newtown late last year, the senate committee that deals with the mental health the first they had since 2007. for whatever reason this is something that is a society we haven't dealt with the way we should. it is the consistent thing and the tragedies we see. it is important to make a point here that people with mental health challenges are much more likely to be the victims than the perpetrators of crime whether it was newtown or
device tax on an industry that represents about two-and-a-half percent of our gross domestic product in massachusetts that will cost jobs here in massachusetts. one of the problems is what we did in massachusetts was tailored to our population. it took advantage of health care and a number of different things, one of them, steve, was the fact that we had merged the non-group market with the individual market to try to spread out risks. what does the federal plan do? well, it reduces the number of rating factors we can use to evaluate risk for that pool. it's undermine wack we want to do. in fact, we have pleaded with our governor, governor patrick has asked the federal government, give us a waiver so that we can evaluate and price risk fairly and yet we now are going to be forced to use 4 rating factors as opposed to 106789 that's one of the major points of distinction here, massachusetts plan worked because it was designed for pennsylvania. we had expertise, for instance, in pricing risks. we had growth markets in medical devices. yet, when we look at what's happening at the federal
't expect any huge grand bargain. don't expect an agreement in the next several weeks on dramatic tax reform. you have paul ryan, patty morrie saying the same things, they want to talk, they're open to compromise. when you start asking about the details, are democrats ready to make big changes in social security and medicare? are republicans ready to make tax changes that include new revenues? you still get resistance. right now, the atmosphere is good. there are a lot of problems when it comes to the specifics. it's not time to put up a clock yet but we should have the control room staff having a deadline clock ready. we may dance through this again. >> and again, again, the issue continues to be new revenue taxes, however you want to label it we'll be talking about that much more. thank you so much, john. great to see you. >> the issues are not new. it's just a question of whether you can get a break. >> and if the political will is there to actually do something. we will see as i hate to say but have to say. thank you, john. >>> what's going on, michaela? >> i want to see him jump for joy
on top senate democrat harry reid's allegation against mitt romney that he hadn't paid taxes in ten years. this was very damaging at the time although it turned out to be untrue. where did that come if? the book says it came from john huntsman sr., the father of romney's republican political rival. long-time rival, chris -- kate. sorry. >> lots to talk about. jonathan marten is a national political kpon for tcorrespondee new york times." he wrote about these revelations. great to see you. >> good morning. >> lots of revelations in this book that you got the sneak peek on. there were rumors, speculation about biden out, clinton in. how seriously do you get the sense that they took this, even bill daly was looking into it. >> i spoke with bill daly yesterday on the phone. he was the chief of staff at this time. this is the fall of 2011. what he told me was that he and a handful of top aides were concerned about the president's prospects at that point. his poll numbers were really plunging and they were looking at options to try and bolster his re-election going into that year. and -- so i t
harry reid alleging mitt romney hadn't paid taxes in nearly a decade? the new book claims his source was jon huntsman sr. >>> stephen colbert tells the nsa to spy, spy away, at least on the vatican. take a look. >> i'm a devout catholic, but i believe the nsa must spy on the vatican. they're tapping the direct line to god. and as i have pointed out, this guy's got a beard, spent a lot of time in the middle east and i keep hearing he's got some plan that for some reason always involves your grandpa dying. [ male announcer ] at humana, understanding what makes you different is what makes us different. we take the time to get to know you and your unique health needs. then we help create a personalized healthcare experience that works for you. and you. and you. with 50 years of know-how, and a dedicated network of doctors, health coaches, and wellness experts, we're a partner you can rely on -- today, and tomorrow. we're going beyond insurance to become your partner in health. humana. is caused by people looking fore traffic parking.y that's remarkable that so much energy is, is wasted.
consequences. sometimes you see what happens with regulations and tax code stuff. you have to go back in and make what are called technical fixes. back in the days of tip and gipper, maybe if you lost the fight you bring up a bill and say this is neutral to make this work better. . you could get it past both sides. say we want the program to work. that can't happen now. so therefore obama and the executive -- >> explain why. because you can't get the votes to do anything. >> the republicans would use that is as a way to obstruct. they have to do a lot of this with regulations they otherwise wouldn't do. and it's like throwing gum into the -- >> all these fixes they demand now, they had an opportunity to deliver on right before they got the first part of the health care plan through. then they came around reconciliation. they said we're not giving you a single vote. you've got to do it that way. anyway, republicans continue their efforts to undercut the president's authority by blocking two of its nominees for the supreme court. or the appellate court yesterday. the first was mel watt,
of people like me hate paperwork. they hate having to deal with accountants, they hate tax time, they hate keeping records, and they were told you don't have to deal with the bureaucracy, you're home free. just sign that policy and you're in business all for yourself. i think people were unfairly told you get away clean on this one. in fact you'll have to join the exchanges and deal with everything everybody else does. i think that was dishonest if it was done on purpose. >> most of us all hate change when it comes to things like this where we have to amend what we're used to, even if it is for our betterment. but let me talk about the fact that all of this is taking up the oxygen in the d.c. chamber and no one is talking about the shutdown and what that cost the country. >> i think these are different -- by the way, i think these are so unrelated. i know some people have already been saying, well, this is going to show that we were right in shutting down the government. i think people see them both as problems. one is the inefficient democrats and the other is the malicious republicans th
grants? well over $2 billion. this is how much of your tax money has gone to helping the states get ready for obama care. >> the white house has pointed out that some of those state exchanges, they are working quite well, suggesting the money was well spent. >> they have said that, and that may be a fair claim. other places are not helping much with their arguments. for example, if you look at colorado, colorado has received almost 179 million to help deal with 716 uninsured residents here. so far just over 3,000 have enrolled. this is early in the process. much of this will change as it moves forward, but again, they make it look very costly. >> tom foreman, thank you. >>> still ahead, is the vatican vulnerable to u.s. spying? we're looking into a bombshell report in italy a key american ally tells me, though, anything is possible. >>> plus an update on the breaking news. the story we're following, a school bus that went off a bridge in kansas. across america people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar,
choose from bronze, silver, gold, and platinum plans, and they can also see what kinds of tax credits might be available to them because of their income level. it is harder to predict because a lot of this depends on what choices consumers make. the fact they have those choices i think is -- we have to acknowledge is a good thing. massachusetts -- you said many times you think it is the proper template. it was a completely african political time it in massachusetts -- a completely different political climate in massachusetts. >> that's the extent how the bill passed. seeny would have liked to more bipartisan support for health care reform than the canident, and anybody here tell you there is a great deal of effort that went into building a plan that reflected not just democratic principles and democratic ways to tackle this problem, but also republican ways. those of us who are old enough to cover the debate under president clinton, there was a republican plan submitted at the time that is the closest precursor to what the affordable care act is today. a lot of the aca came from middl
when kerik pled guilty to tax evasion and lying to the white house. he served three years in a federal minimum security prison in maryland, and he was released back in may. we spoke to kerik exclusively earlier this week, just days after his home confinement ended, and i began by asking how he's doing. >> i feel pretty good. it's all a transition. it's a pretty intense transition to come home. >> talk to me a little bit about daily life. what was it like for you? >> there isn't much you can do in prison. my daily life consisted of reading. i think i read over 300 books while i was there. i did a lot of writing. i exercised a lot. >> you thought a lot, i would imagine. >> you do a lot of thinking. >> did you mix with the other inmates? >> yes. i mixed -- >> are ywere you scared about t? >> no, but i was with men that were sentenced to 30 years. a lot of people were skeptical. a lot of people were, you know, a lot of people didn't want to come near me, didn't want to talk to me. but over time, i got to know many of them. over time, i got to help many of them. over time, i got to teach. i
's nominee for head of homeland security. he wound up pleading guilty to tax evasion. in line to the white house. spending three years in a federal minimum security prison. earlier this week, he spoke to matt lauer days after being relieved from house arrest. he opened up about what he realized about life behind bars and his new mission now that he's out. >> bernie, you spent six years of your life running that jail over our shoulder there which is one of the biggest and most notorious jails in the country. when you look back at that place now, does your perspective change? >> yeah, it changes. when i ran that system, i focused on the day-to-day operations of care, custody, and control. what i realized today is, especially in the federal prison system, that's not necessarily the focus. >> reporter: despite a long and impressive resume in law enforcement, kerik says only a few months after behind bars himself that he realized that criminal justice system was broken. >> these young men, first-time nonviolence low level drug offense their sentence may be five or ten years, but you know what?
of that. >> it's very hard. if they cut it, a lot of people are going to suffer. >> i pay taxes and work so hard. and i believe that i should get some help. look what happened now. >> so you were down there with the chris hayes team. what's the disconnect here? the world's richest country yet we have this number of individuals, 48 million who need assistance. we've seen the number grow by 77% since 2007. what's the deal? >> i think what happened was when the 2008 financial collapse happened, there was this massive infusion of money into the food stamp program to deal with what they foresaw would be a huge increase in hunger as a result of the recession. what happened was they were able to stabilize the increase in hunger but it never went down to pre-recession levels. what's happening now is this money is getting phased out as a result of the stimulus expiring. >> where's the voice in congress? why don't they have a voice? >> there are a couple of people drawing attention to this. jim mcgovern has been a loud advocate on behalf of food stamp recipients. however, i think there's -- a lot
reagan cut the tax obligation, cut the regulation, we didn't have this enormous, huge burden. we were creating 300, 400, 500,000 jobs a month. that's real growth. that's real opportunity for people's lives. right now we have 47 million people on food stamps in this country. we are trying to at least go back to what bill clinton and newt gingrich did in having a work program. if you're able-bodied and you don't have children to have to take care of, you should be able to provide some form of work. we also have eligibility issues. people are able to go and subscribe to food stamps without hardly any requirements on eligibility. that's not right. >> well, perhaps, sir, but with regard to the work requirement, you got to be able to find a job. as you well know, it's pretty hard in many, many parts of this country. but nonetheless -- >> the opportunity need to be there. >> i do appreciate your time, as always. >> thank you. >>> it is a new book. did the president really want to dump vice president biden for hillary clinton? that's next. le a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying
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